Comments on: bloggers: heads up! http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/ ...reverberating Fri, 18 May 2012 06:35:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: phekfaupe http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-163016 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:55:09 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-163016 Looks like you are a true pro. Did ya study about the theme? haha Looks like you are a true pro. Did ya study about the theme? haha

]]> by: ben http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6572 Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:39:42 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6572 ...And Ampersand makes just the point that makes my RSS feed brief. Originally, I set up the feed to conserve bandwidth; when I'm making lots of posts the RSS feed is a lot less bandwidth intensive. ...But also, if someone grabs my full feed from Bloglines I have no clue at all that they're reading me. Call it a quirk, but I don't like that. …And Ampersand makes just the point that makes my RSS feed brief.

Originally, I set up the feed to conserve bandwidth; when I’m making lots of posts the RSS feed is a lot less bandwidth intensive.

…But also, if someone grabs my full feed from Bloglines I have no clue at all that they’re reading me. Call it a quirk, but I don’t like that.

]]> by: Ampersand http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6571 Mon, 02 Feb 2004 05:29:33 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6571 Well, I've made the suggested changes - I'd rather have as many readers as possible, even if some of them are uncounted. I wish there was some way to know how many folks read my blog via RSS, though. Well, I’ve made the suggested changes - I’d rather have as many readers as possible, even if some of them are uncounted. I wish there was some way to know how many folks read my blog via RSS, though.

]]> by: Elle http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6570 Mon, 02 Feb 2004 02:14:52 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6570 About the logistics of the issue - pardon my ignorance, but I don't understand how to set up a link for my RSS feed. I'm using BloggerPro for my blog, and I have the RSS option selected. My referrer logs indicate that two, maybe three, people are coming to my site via Bloglines. But I don't have a link set-up for an RSS or XML feed or whatever, and not sure how/why to do so, if Bloglines readers can already get what they need. Feel free to take this email, Emily, if you want to help me. Or post here if you think others of your readers are this ignorant! :) About the logistics of the issue - pardon my ignorance, but I don’t understand how to set up a link for my RSS feed. I’m using BloggerPro for my blog, and I have the RSS option selected. My referrer logs indicate that two, maybe three, people are coming to my site via Bloglines. But I don’t have a link set-up for an RSS or XML feed or whatever, and not sure how/why to do so, if Bloglines readers can already get what they need.

Feel free to take this email, Emily, if you want to help me. Or post here if you think others of your readers are this ignorant!
:)

]]> by: Emily http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6569 Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:01:16 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6569 I see what you're saying and that it might bother some people. It doesn't really faze me because they're not claiming to have written my content... I thought at first that's what you were implying. I see what you’re saying and that it might bother some people. It doesn’t really faze me because they’re not claiming to have written my content… I thought at first that’s what you were implying.

]]> by: The One True b!X http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6568 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:52:27 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6568 Dig deeper. They reprint the full-text of entries as scraped from the HTML of the various websites themselves. For example, here's the opening page of your site on Blogrunner: <a href="http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/B/7/6/00221067.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/B/7/6/00221067.html</a> And then if you scroll down and click "More Entries" you get this page: <a href="http://www.blogrunner.com/channel?c_id=221067" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogrunner.com/channel?c_id=221067</a> From there, any browse link takes you to the full-text as scraped from the HTML of your website. BR intends, at some point, to accept ads, which in essence means they will make $$ off of presenting other people's material with or without their permission to do so. Whether any particular author finds this to be an issue or not is, of course, variable. Dig deeper. They reprint the full-text of entries as scraped from the HTML of the various websites themselves.

For example, here’s the opening page of your site on Blogrunner:

http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/B/7/6/00221067.html

And then if you scroll down and click “More Entries” you get this page:

http://www.blogrunner.com/channel?c_id=221067

From there, any browse link takes you to the full-text as scraped from the HTML of your website.

BR intends, at some point, to accept ads, which in essence means they will make $$ off of presenting other people’s material with or without their permission to do so.

Whether any particular author finds this to be an issue or not is, of course, variable.

]]> by: Emily http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6567 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:39:35 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6567 I don't get what you're implying ...that site is crediting back with links to the full entry and a title citing the source. Blogrunner looks to me like Daypop or Blogdex - a blog threads aggregator. How are they stealing? I don’t get what you’re implying …that site is crediting back with links to the full entry and a title citing the source. Blogrunner looks to me like Daypop or Blogdex - a blog threads aggregator. How are they stealing?

]]> by: The One True b!X http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6566 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:34:02 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6566 Here it is: <a href="http://www.blogrunner.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogrunner.com/</a> Here it is:

http://www.blogrunner.com/

]]> by: The One True b!X http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6565 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:29:42 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6565 What I've seen, and I'll have to do some digging to find the reference, is a site that (1) steals full-text content for their own uses, and (2) if the RSS feed doesn't provide full-text for their commercial convenience, they scrape the HTML of the site itself and publish full text on their own. And that was just one site that got caught doing so. As I said, however, this isn't a holy war, and opinion is subjective, and sites and their authors differ. In my case, which is an (currently offline thanks to Qwest) ongoing experiment in hobbyist reporting/journalism, readership in a component of credibility. If I'm not getting readers to my site, the readership figures would be inaccurate. Numbers, in this case, matter. Aside from that subjective issue, I'll try to figure out where this content-lifting site was. What I’ve seen, and I’ll have to do some digging to find the reference, is a site that (1) steals full-text content for their own uses, and (2) if the RSS feed doesn’t provide full-text for their commercial convenience, they scrape the HTML of the site itself and publish full text on their own. And that was just one site that got caught doing so.

As I said, however, this isn’t a holy war, and opinion is subjective, and sites and their authors differ.

In my case, which is an (currently offline thanks to Qwest) ongoing experiment in hobbyist reporting/journalism, readership in a component of credibility. If I’m not getting readers to my site, the readership figures would be inaccurate. Numbers, in this case, matter.

Aside from that subjective issue, I’ll try to figure out where this content-lifting site was.

]]> by: Emily http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6564 Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:15:04 +0000 http://www.strangechord.com/2004/01/31/bloggers-heads-up/#comment-6564 One True: What does it matter if a reader clicks through to your full site, though, if they're "spending their time and attention" reading your content? I don't understand how the blogger is losing anything by having his or her feed be full entries. Isn't the point to have others reading your content? As far as stealing content... I haven't seen any evidence of web sites grabbing entire feeds from blogs/news sites and posting them without credit. Have you seen this? Until I see that this is, in fact, a major issue, I am not deterred from changing my feed to entire rather than excerpted entries. One True: What does it matter if a reader clicks through to your full site, though, if they’re “spending their time and attention” reading your content? I don’t understand how the blogger is losing anything by having his or her feed be full entries. Isn’t the point to have others reading your content?

As far as stealing content… I haven’t seen any evidence of web sites grabbing entire feeds from blogs/news sites and posting them without credit. Have you seen this? Until I see that this is, in fact, a major issue, I am not deterred from changing my feed to entire rather than excerpted entries.

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